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's to resume their position because there's an answer to the big question. >> lilia luciano on verdict watch for us in orlando. thank you so much. >>> i want to bring in our legal panel to talk about deliberations and which side did a better job of proving its case. we have diane dimond and former prosecutor wendy murphy on the right side of your screen. thanks to both of you for joining us today. >> sure. >> before we get started, i want to play a bite from defense lawyer jose baez who on monday raised the issue of reasonable doubt, telling the jury they have it. take a listen. >> these are the facts that you have heard. and these are the facts that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that casey anthony is guilty of murder in the first degree. reasonable doubt lives here. it's throughout the case. it's right here. it's with these individuals. it's with those individuals. it's everywhere. you can't trust this evidence. you can't. >> all right. so we started with the prosecutor first. wendy, let me start with you. did the prosecution remove any reasonable doubt? many say that jose baez may have a
's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that nothing besides the final deal can pass. meanw
>>> big casino. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. leading off tonight, shooting the moon. president obama met today with congressional leaders to deal with the debt and he may have calmed the republican' bluff. the president is pushing a plan much bigger than before with $4 trillion. that's trillion with a t, spending cuts. major changes to medicare and to social security could be on the table as well. provided republicans agree to an increase in tax revenues. we may be watching president obama outmaneuvering his republican opponents, positioning himself as an even bigger deficit hawk than those on the right. it's a bold move, but will it work? >>> and what happens if no deal on the debt creeling is reached? is president obama's last best option to invoke the 14th amendment, to bypass congress and borrow beyond the debt limit? conservatives are usually quick to defend the constitution, but congressman tim scott of south carolina says that move might be worthy of, believe it or not, impeachment. >>> how's this for a fight? fox is going after
the washington post, and one from what we played on msnbc earlier on jansing & company. >> well, it is a big deal as it was originally recordednd mr. hoyer in the whip meeting this morning mentioned it, so if mr. norquist was taking a position that is reasonable that expiring tax cuts under existing law were not tax increases that creates a lot of breathing room for us and head room. >> a lot. >> but my understanding is that he has gone back on that, and so revenues have to be part of it, and, you know, when i talk candidly to many of the republican colleagues, they understand that. and they are worried about the revenues and not getting the cuts, and there is anxiety on the net level of negotiation, but most folks understand that when we are spending 22% of the gdp and collecting revenues lower than the eisenhower era at 15%, that doesn't work. >> congressman, under the gun today? if not today, a deal by friday? what do you think? >> well, honestly, i don't know, but what i do know is that we have to have a deal and we cannot allow america to default. if you are eric cantor and want to have more
guys to protect the fat guys and corporate jets and big super rich. you're expendable now, crack thinkers. don't you understand? they play you against the poor and you're skpentable now. let those guys handle it. they got to protect the big guys. >> now know, that is coming from john mccain whose campaign might be compared to custard, except custer's came out better than mccain's did. in 2012 a conservative will be elected so i think that will speak for itself. his his brand was she lacks in 2007 within 2008. mine won the house of representative by record numbers in 2010. >> yeah, but now your brand of conservative is told, get your butts in line. don't get too big for yourself. because you've done your job. you're saving the corporate jet guys. you're closing in making sure to protect the loops holes. now just shut up and let us handle it, we've got movies it watch. thank you judson phillips. thank you for being here with me. >> thank you for having me. >> hosts of the bill press show on sirius radio, gentlemen, it is quite interesting, looks like mr. boehner is trying to get a
republicans. that would offer a big challenge to mitt romney. >> keith, why is at this moment rick perry holding out? >> i wish i could tell you what's going on inside rick perry's head. i think he's probably deciding if he's a legitimate candidate. if he can win the gop nomination. i think he is threatened by michele bachmann. i think she's sort of obviously protects the same type of people that are part of her base, part of his base. there's the question of electablity. if he wins the gop nomination, could he win the presidency? could he beat obama obama? i'm not convinced he could. >> what do you think, john, who would be the builtest threat to barack obama of three? >> i think romney would be the biggest threat. i think perry would come in second and i think that bachmann could would come in third. mitt romney has the organization out there. he has a compelling story when it comes to turn around artists. he turned around the olympics. he turned and massachusetts and turned around -- i think people want a turn around artist. perry has a story to tell about what he's done in texas as f
to raise the debt ceiling. everybody fr everyone agrees. this is big for the republicans. never done before with a long-term budget plan to bring down the deficit. now everybody agrees also there has to be a balanced approach. they agree to $1.6 trillion in cuts and what the president is saying is there's $400 billion in tax subsidies. tax give ways, as al you mentioned, tot hedge fund managers, that we can no longer afford. now if republicans don't buy that, as david brooks said nothing in the new york times, they are idiots. they don't know how to govern. they won. they ought to take this deal. >> mr. brooks, conservative columnists, is saying come on. you are marginalizing yourself. can't even you even hear from your own people that ideal logically agreed with the republican line. >> well, look, reverend sharpton, you showed some polls a minute ago that showed 70 or 8 30ers don't agree with republican owns this or that or the other thing. if the republicans are standing up for their convictions and beliefs against the tide of public opinion, it may be political courage an political decis
outside the jail. what can be next for this young woman. >>> and breaking news this morning. a big arrest in the ongoing brit hacking scandal. one of the people closest to the head of newscorp taken in by police. >>> and countdown to a deal. new reports that the president and congressional leaders may meet today to try to hammer out a debt ceiling agreement. will this go down to the wire? good morning, everyone. i'm richard lui in for alex witt. welcome to "msnbc sunday." top of the hour four, after nearly three years behind bars casey anthony is a free woman this morning. the 25-year-old was released from jail in orlando just after midnight eastern time 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter caylee. outside the jail hundreds gathering carrying signs and protests of support -- or support, rather, of anthony. inside, one nbc news photojournalist was in the processing room when casey was released. he describes what happened. take a listen. >> she was just tunnel vision to the door. and that's when i think i saw that, you know, that smile or relief,
>>> good thursday, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. we begin with breaking news out of texas, where authorities have arrested an army private assigned to fort campbell, kentucky. officials found bomb-making materials in his hotel room. that arrest came after someone reportedly overheard the private threatening to stage an attack on the army post at fort hood. fort hood was the scene of a deadly shooting attack in november 2009. major nadal hassan is accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others. pete williams has the latest from washington now. pete, what do you know about this arrest of the private? >> reporter: right. well, good afternoon. you saw killeen, texas on that map. that's where he was arrested. he's a private first class assigned to fort campbell, but arrested in texas yesterday and according to law enforcement officials, what happened is he went into a gun store in killeen, texas and was asking questions that the gun store owner thought was suspicious. he was also buying smokeless powder which can be used for a variety
i'm thomas roberts. rupert murdoch will testify at parliament tomorrow, this is the big headline, all over the phone hacking scandal that's rocking his media scandal. meanwhile there was a new arrest of a top exec over the weekend, and now the head of scotland yard and his assistant are resigning. if you're keeping score so far, there have been three high-profile resignations, ten arrests and it is not over yet. jim maceda is live in london to bring us up to speed on this. jim, good morning. >> reporter: hi there, thomas. make that four high profile resignations. just a couple of hours ago scotland yard's number two, john yates, also resigned under increasing, extraordinary, really, pressure. that on the heels on his boss's resignation last night. commissioner paul stevenson, he was the head of scotland yard. he, if you will, fell on his sword and said that he could not in good conscience continue with all the challenges to keep the peace in great britain as he and specifically his relationship with the murdock media empire became such a focus of attention. he was calling it a ma
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
of the substance of the proposal, it's too big. there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2 deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoman michele bachmann's first president
't pass their own plan? breaking news tonight, speaker boehner delays the big vote indicating he does not have votes to pass it. it all raises the big question, has the tea party taken control of boehner's house? >>> plus, wouldn't you love to know what mr. economy thinks about all this? too bad. because mr. romney is not talking. how's that for leadership. >>> and waiting with wait until you meet the latest extremist to log on to perry's prayer route. i'm al sharpton. breaking news. boehner abruptly delayed a make or break vote on his own debt plan. the speaker frantically been trying to whip up support from tea party republicans all day long. it is an indication that he simply does not have the votes to pass his plan. it is unclear when the vote will happen. the fear here would be a stunning setback for his leadership and for the g oo p establishment as it battles with party members. joining me is nbc's luke russell live on capitol hill. luke, can you tell us what is happening here? >> good evening reverend al. an alarming piece of news that came to us about 15 minutes ago. democrat
'll hear the latest on the debt ceiling. a big weekend in florida. the closing arguments expected in the casey anthony trial. the big question did the defense drop the ball on a key witness? >>> fast food nation. not the united states, but russia. it's the american invasion of the former soviet union where you're going to find surprising places to eat. >>> skyrocket on the fourth of july. not fireworks but prices. we're going to tell you how much this independence day celebration will cost you. >>> good morning, everyone, i'm alex witt. fascinating new twists in the sex assault case against the former head of the imf. first, a big weekend in orlando in the casey anthony murder trial. closing arguments scheduled for tomorrow as the case enters its final phase. friday saw dramatic testimony from the employer of cindy anthony, that's casey's mom. the employee refuted sipdy's testimony that she searched for the term chloroform on her home computer because he say she was at work at the time. >> it appears to be from on the screen there's activity throughout the account throughout this
's headlines about the campaign's big haul and tell you why we're a tad underwemed. >> >> dyou got to check the sel date, it's wednesday, july 13th, 2013. i'm chuck todd, an unbelievable hump day, feels like it's forever bigger here in washington, where i begin my first read this morning. it's the beginning of the end game for negotiations on the federal debt. with pessimism building that leerds will produce a deal and avoid default mitch mcconnell proposed plan c, a contingency, what i like to call the hail mary punt. he set the stage on the senate floor with this pretty rough attack on the president. >> after years of discussions and months of negotiations, i have little question that as long as this president is in the oval office a real solution is probably unattainable. >> mr. mcconnell said the day i was elected that his job was to try to see me beat. i'll have to explain how it is that we're going to avoid default because i'm going to be president here for at least another year and a half. >> right after that interview, mcconnell unveiled this plan c. he would hand over to the presid
have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
on to as a pass towards raising the debt ceiling. i'm sure that was an edified discussion for their big senate plan, which the president likes, but it is not the president and the senate who need to get together to decide this thing. it's the president and the senate and the drunk kids at the other end of the building who are setting their barbies on fire and cooking metal in the microwave until it explodes. watch it burn! watch it burn! honestly, time for a reality check here. house republicans are not trying to drive a hard bargain and get the best deal possible. house republicans do not want to raise the debt ceiling. for anything. they would please not like to raise the debt ceiling. they would like to go into default, thank you very much. house republicans have been actively making that argument for weeks now that hitting the debt ceiling, oh, that won't hurt a bit, who cares? republican congressman mo brooks of alabama told the washington post this week that on the contrary, all credit rating should be improved by not raising the debt ceiling, which is like saying you're looking forward
and angry ever since they heard the verdict. >> lilia, thank you. we want to get to the big questions of what is next for casey anthony. we want to bring in our legal team. i'm joined by veteran criminal trial lawyer, ricky, and wendy murphy, former prosecutor. i know we have a lot to talk about. wendy, what is your reaction, the initial reaction to what the judge was able to do? because according to everyone that i have talked to, he threw the book at her, at least the book that he was given to the jury. >> it was a paper back but a book nonetheless. he gave her the max. no question. why he chose to do that, my sense is, although judges may never admit this, when there is a mob outside and they are angry and they believe something happened to this child, even though she's acquitted, when the public feels like the justice system failed, the judge will do what needs to be done to keep things calm. let's say judge perry is right, that she will have at most one more month behind the bars, or at least a few weeks, it allows this noise to calm down. >> do you agree with ricky, that it allo
like to say as well just how sorry i am. >> my big question today, will one of the murdochs take the fall for the phone hacking scandal? of course you can reach me on facebook and twitter. to answer that question, let's bring in a reporter for "the washington post" style section. it's good to see you today, paul. what do you think? do you think that we're going to see either rupert or james take the fall? >> at this point barring any other revelations that's a big if i don't think so. the murdoch family controls about 40% of news corp. it has the board pretty much in its pocket. unlikely that they will be forced to resign as a result of this. in the absence of anything else happening. >> his board of directors whose responsibility has been to shareholders has been rather meek and silence on this scandal. now you have a director, tom perkins telling "the wall street journal" that rupert's a genius that and that the board thinks it needs him. how crucial is rupert to the future success of the company? >> well, rupert murdoch built news corp. from a single newspaper in australia in
. they are convincing one another that it is not that big after deal. so right now the white house's big hope and i don't think it is misplace said that if we go to do doom's days on this, the hope is people that get blamed will be the republicans. >> that's option 2. that's default. i've given you two options. >> it's not default if we don't stop sending out the checks. if we keep sending out the checks, it's not default. we didn't default in '95. we just got near to it. >> does the president then say, okay, i'll agree to the republican plan? what's the third option besides default and defeat? how does he force his point of view, which is a reasonable balance, two or three to one, spending cuts to revenue hikes. >> i have no idea. i should say they're talking four or five to one. >> how do we get to there then? >> he can't. on his own we simply cannot. we live in a country, the constitution, the constitution has ultimate power. a lot of people think he could ignore them by asserting constitutional authority, but that is really dependent on the supreme court. >> am i right that it depends on one man, j
, but the big deal now, how to raise taxes, whether taxes should be raised at all, and not just taxes on ordinary americans. subsidies and tax credits for what the president calls tax cats and ceos of hedge fund managers. this is a political symbol to bash republicans. republicans call that class warfare. they call it demogoguery. it's senator dan coats, an indiana republican, and his response today to the president. >> unfortunately, the president's spending plan has failed. now is the time for sdisive leadership from this president. it's time to cast aside the false safety of political denial in re-election hopes and put the future of our country above all else. >> reporter: alex, something unheard of has happened in washington over the past week. the senate was scheduled to go in recess. they canceled the recess. hard to remember the last time that happened. they were under political pressure by the president and others to not leave washington, to come to the table as the clock ticks toward august 2nd, but as you can see, it appears we're still in the shouting stage. everybody posi
. >>> now to two big stories back here at home coming to us from the white house. a big number for president obama, and we're not talking about the debt here. $86 million was just raised between the dnc and his re-election team. we're going to talk more about that coming up later in the show. meanwhile this afternoon, the president wants to bring congress closer to this massive debt deal. but the meeting may include more discussion on a republican backup plan. minority leader mitch mcconnell has a fallback option, giving the president authority, and the full responsibility, to raise the debt ceiling $2.5 trillion in three increments. he put pressure on the white house today. take a listen. >> we'll sign legislation by the president that requires him to propose spending cuts greater than the debt limit he requests, make the president show in black and white the specific cuts he claims to support. if he refuses he'll have to raise the debt ceiling on his own. >> nbc's mike viqueira is live for us on the white house on the north lawn. good morning. >> good morning. >> the president still stress
brewer, covering the big news from coast to coast. the big story today, casey anthony will be out of jail in less than one week. moments ago, we learned the florida mother acquitted of murdering her own 2-year-old daughter will be released next wednesday, july 13th. on tuesday, she was convicted on all counts of lying to police. this morning, judge belvin perry announced what that would cost her. >> i will sentence you to one year in the orange county jail, imposing a $1,000 fine on each count. all four counts to run consecutive to each other, giving you credit for the time that you have previously served. >> that credit amounted to just over 1,000 days. let's go live now to orlando. nbc is outside the courthouse with the very latest on what has happened this morning. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, richard. that was six days short of the worst case scenario for those protesters that gathered around this morning outside the courtroom. certainly not comforting, not even six weeks or six months, not even six years is anywhere near what they wanted or what they consid
their candidates. >> we will stand, because we serve a faithful god. >> i think it's a big mistake for governor romney. >> there's a move afoot to try to blame george w. bush. >> to make an informed decision and then come back to talk to us. >> good evening from washington. two week's notice, that's what president obama gave congressional republicans late today, two weeks to reach an agreement on deficit reduction and raising the debt ceiling to avoid what would likely be a catastrophic default. the president said he won't accept a short-term deal and invited republican leaders to join his previously-scheduled meeting with democrats on thursday. he restated this is an opportunity to "do something big to reduce the debt." >> to get there, i believe we need a balanced approach. we need to take on spending in domestic programs, in defense programs, in entitlement programs, and we need to take on spending in the tax code. spending on certain tax breaks and deductions for the wealthiest of americans. this will require both parties to get out of our comfort zones, and both parties to agree on real co
is the big bad government is a threat to us. the consumer protection bureau as most americans understand is the government protecting them from abuse by private financial institutions. and they are terrified that the public will see that there is value to a public institution that can prevent them from being abused by private institutions because it undercuts the whole rationale that the government is always bad, always a problem. and that's why we are fighting so hard for it. >> congressman barney frank, democrat of massachusetts, ranking democrat on the financial committee. thank you for your time tonight. >>> texas governor, and gonna run for president guy, rick perry made a very surprising decision today that is going to upset some of his most ardent supporters. i'll tell you about it with a smile when i come back. >>> there are two things happening in rick perry's political life that are on a collision course. the first thing is that he plainly is going to run for president. he is leaking to the press that his wife wants him to run, she is actively encourage ing him to do it. he jus
a new high. his latest attack on big government is our con job of the day. >>> welcome to the show, i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, are we closer to a deal or disaster? president obama and house speaker john boehner may be nearing a deal for a new grand bargain on debt limit. the president is meeting with democrats right now at the white house. presumably to talk about the deal. but any agreement would have to get past the tea party republicans in the house. and democrats say, they have a problem. >> the loudest shrillest voices from the republican party are not leaders but tea party extremists. >> they group of ideal ogs have grabbed the reigns and refuse to let go. it is the group who alone wants to drive the car off the cliff. >> but now, even boehner is saying republicans must compromise. >> i believe congress must act before august 2nd and i hope we are prepared to do that. at the end of the day, we have v a responsibility to act. >>> if the united states of america's debt rating gets downgraded, every interest rate in america will go up. >> joining me now is republican congress
a long way. there's a big difference between requiring higher co-payments for a wealthy medicare recipients than saying everybody in medicare will pay $6500 more, which is the ryan plan. but president went that distance. and i think boehner went back it his caucus. he couldn't get the support. and so the speaker has now become a mouth piece for the tea party. and you're right and dana's right, i think in the end there has to be a deal, maybe there won't be, there has to be a deal, but it will come at the very last second. >> president may have said, let me throw it all on the table. let me rising everything. let me, as he said, show tough leadership. and they still wouldn't do it and maybe it was a chess move to show no matter what, this is about trying to bring a president down than to lift a nation up. could that have been the strategy, dana? >> you know, well, look, the president did give -- how much more could he have done? he gave the republicans everything they were looking for with the exception of saying, hey, come on, give me some face-saving gesture here. give me someth
the democrats and their negotiating position in the big debt ceiling fight in washington. whether or not the white house really just put social security and medicare on the table for cuts. that is all ahead. but we start tonight with a dramatic development in a life or death issue. it is literally about life and death. about the power of the government to kill people it is holding prisoner. but it's also about presidential politics, and who will be the republican party's nominee for president this year. there are two unquestionable truisms in coverage of republican presidential politics right now. one is that the prohibitive favorite to get the republican party's nomination, the front-runner so far out in front it is almost impossible to imagine anyone catching him is mitt romney. mitt romney seen here at the romney fundraiser today in london, england, of all places. mr. romney leads in all scientific international polls at this point, in all iowa polls, new hampshire polls, and in fundraiser. he is the front-runner and is front running alone. that is truism number one. truism num
here, right here. they will start working it. working it. take a piece how big they want it. they work it and work it until it cuts into the metal. whatever they get toothpaste and soap, mix it up and layer it. anytime you come in here, they can see this and cover it up. two pieces that were used, came from here. that's why they started doing this. this is contraband now. >> although level 6 is on lockdown, we're allowed to talk to one inmate about the toll the new restrictions are taking. >> i haven't been able to visit with my sister or mother because of this thing that happened in the separate housing unit. it was two other inmates, had nothing to do with me. so,itis not right. it's a nuisance. it's annoying because i don't behave in a way that merits my suspension of privileges, visits, or do a lot of other guys for that matter but yet we're being punished collectively. two weeks ago, they came and took away our nail clippers. we weren't allowed access except on sunday night. if we needed to cut our nails, the corrections officer would give them to us and then take them back. we we
. it's kind of incredible. i think it's been easy to lose sense of the big picture here, but the further you get away from what just happened, the bigger perspective you take on it, the more incredible it is. 70 times to raise the debt ceiling. raising the debt ceiling is something that happens as a matter of course. it's a run of the mill no headline kind of event. >> this is really housekeeping, tim. this has nothing to say, nothing to do with future spending. this simply reflects decisions made in the past and it ought to be treated like the housekeeping matter it is. >> george w. bush's budget director, mitch daniels, explaining the bush administration hoped raising the debt ceiling would be handled by congress as a housekeeping matter. that's how it was handled over the last decade. in the george w. bush administration, congress raised the ceiling seven separate times. among the republicans raising their current tantrums among john boehnor, eric canton, mitch mcconnell, jon kyl, collectively they passed 19 votes during the bush administration to raise the debt ceili
? >> well, i think that the state, for all the negative we say about the defense, the state has a very big burden to meet here and i'm not sure they're going to to prove first degree premedicated murder. that carries death. they're going to have to prove that the 84 searches on the computer were premeditation. chloroform searches, neck breaking searches, internal injury searches. they're going to have to tie that to casey as the premeditation for doing away with her daughter. the defense, oh, alex, i can't pick one thing that they need to concentrate on. the big ugly umbrella hanging off the defense for their closing is their opening statement. it was so full of assertions that were not proved that i just don't know how they're going to recue the mess. >> how long are they supposed to present these closing arguments? this is not going to be a quick open and shut. we have a death penalty potential here. >> right, the prosecution said early on, the lead attorney, really good attorney, that her presentation would take about a day. we have jury instructions, too, which i hate to say, it's the
the republicans control the house doesn't mean anything in the big picture other than being very successful in getting the democratic senate and the white house to start talking about spending reductions as opposed to just raising the debt ceiling, so we have been successful that way. but ultimately because the's di don't have a parliamentary system -- >> you just said this word, i just saw jim demint this morning on another news program talk about, you know, no, you know, said no to the boehner plan and he's arguing against the boehner plan, campaigning against it. what do you tell folks who look up to jim demint in that republican conference of yours? >> well, first of all, i think the majority of our colleagues believe that it's important to give our leadership support, number one, number two, when people really stop to think of how far we have moved the discussion from raising taxes to only lifting the debt limit to being able to cut spending at the same rate, then they have to consider it as being quite successful, i think. but at the end of the day, i do believe that my colleagues thi
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or you know, too big government. because there's plenty that needs to be done in this country. we need to fix schools. we need to fix sewers at water systems. we need to hire more healthcare workers and child care workers. and that's exactly what wee we should do. this is back -- >> we need to build highways, tunnels. look at traffic you've got to go to in chicago just to get to the show. representative, thanks for your time tonight. have a great weekend. >> thank you, al. >>> up next, michele bachmann takes another big step to the right. and falls off the deep end. is she taking her campaign down with her? >>> and the party of the rich is having some money problems. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is america. what makes our country great? our can-do spirit and our can-do cheese. kraft singles. this cheese rolls up its sleeves and gets the job done 'cause we're always made with milk and we're rich in calcium to help build 'em up strong! and fast! is is salonpas. >>> welcome back to the show. now to discuss some of the big political stories. with we have the power panel. joining m
bill clinton. >>> and, casey anthony is a free woman this wednesday. was this a big fail for our justice system? or proof that it worked. >>> welcome to the show. i'm al sharpton. to nights's lead. just how much is president obama willing to compromise in the debt fight? the president obama met today with leaders of both parties at the white house. and he said, everyone must sacrifice to make a deal. >> nothing is agreed to until everything's agreed to. and the parties are still far apart on a wide range ever issues. everybody acknowledged that there is going to be pain involved politically on all sides. but our biggest obligation is to make sure that we're doing the right thing by the american people. >> but democrats are nervous that the white house may agree to as much as $4 trillion in cuts over ten years. under that plan, democrats would agree to cuts in social security, medicare, and medicaid. in return, republicans would sign off on up to a trillion dollars in new revenue. which they don't seem willing to do. >> everything is on the table except raising taxes on the americ
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